Oct 132021

You can now open up John Pack’s genealogy in PAF using our John Pack Gedcom File (Right-click with your mouse on this text and select “Save Linked File As…” from the popup menu).

We now have hundreds of photos of John Pack and his descendants in our JPFA Photo Album. You can view the photos, add your comments to help identify or add information about them, or submit your own photo from a digital camera or scanner.

Please see the donate page for more ways you can help with genealogy, photos, documents, or cash donations.

We now have over 1,000 pages of John Pack’s progenitor genealogy online. Click on the links below to see what genealogy we have and what is missing.

You can also view the “Pack” genealogy forum on genealogy.com, or contact Kathleen P. Skinner, John Pack Family Association Genealogist, with your genealogy question.

Table of Contents | Surnames | Name List

 Posted by at 4:19 pm
Oct 102021
Current condition of headstone ^, Original condition V
Dear John Pack Family Descendants,

What a wonderful reunion we had in August! Congrats to Gary Pack on pulling on the parts together. Margie Grider our Facebook manager showed us around the John Pack Home with ease.

Tracy Carr and Gary Pack’s children managed the online broadcast. Diane Quist and Gary Pack provided our lunches with creamies to end. Our program was amazing, focusing on Eliza Jane Graham.

Brian Stutzman provided history on her involvement at the trial after the murder of Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith. Nancy Potter, a descendant of Eliza gave insight to her life after leaving Nauvoo, and John Pack. Of course we sang the Alphabet Kids song and shared a few other stories about Nancy Booth and John. Thanks to Andi Zorn for managing the finance for the event.

Now it is time to move forward! We want to welcome all descendants of John Pack and his wives to continue to gather together. How many current descendants are living? Help us know. Join the Facebook groups and talk to each other. As we turn to our ancestry, may we seek out those not yet found. Let’s learn about their lives, gather stories, documents and the historical events they lived in.

TheGenealogy Committee under President Kathleen Skinner will meet soon to discuss our future projects. We would like to see a re-start of our DNA project to connect us firmly to New Jersey and across to England. We also have the 1750 gravestone of Job Pack, Elizabeth, and son John to replace in the Rahway Cemetery, New Jersey. Our shared Pack lines of Buckhout, Marsh and Greene could use some work, too. I invite anyone interested to join a Committee.

Committee Needs: Technology with the websites and DNA gathering. DNA Project manager, Newsletter Editor, Reunion 2023 planning, Helpers under the Vice Presidents including Facebook, Ancestral researchers . Lucy Janes GILES and Jessie Belle STIRLING VP’s.

John Pack Family Executive Committee … October 2021

President: Kathleen Skinner…[email protected]

Secretary: Tracy W. Carr … [email protected]

Treasurer: Brenda Rees …[email protected]

Vice Presidents:

Laura Dieckmann.. VP Julia IVES …[email protected]

Diane Quist…VP Nancy BOOTH …[email protected]

Heather Pack…VP Ruth MOSHER …[email protected]

Jennifer Browning…VP Mary Jane WALKER …[email protected]

Brad Pack… Website Manager …[email protected] johnpackfamily.com

Larry Skinner…Membership Assistant… [email protected]

David R Pack… Historian/ Genealogy Webmaster: [email protected]

Margie Grider…Facebook Manager: [email protected] msn.com


Kathleen Skinner / JPFA President

Contact: [email protected] 801-513-7364
587 East 700 South
Centerville, Utah 84014
 Posted by at 6:35 pm
Jan 102021

Save the date

Reunion/Survey/JPFA Officers

Hello John Pack family members and friends! Our reunion is less than a week away! I hope you are planning on attending if you can!

Please fill out this survey if you have not had a chance to do so:

I want to bring up a few things about the reunion so we will all have a little more information.

First, that we have HUGE DISCOUNTS on the This is the Place Heritage Park passes available for those who come the John Pack home and buy them from us! It will cost $5 instead of $15! Come and enjoy this amazing park!

Next, we will be offering lunches which can be purchased for $10 each! They include a ½ sandwich (very large), a pickle, a cookie, a mint, and a salad (frog eye, potato, or fruit). We will have bottled water and Creamies for everyone also! The following sandwich options will be available:

· Turkey and Swiss on honey wheat

· Ham and Havarti cheese on sourdough

· Roast Beef and Provolone on 13 grain and Dijon horseradish

· Vegetarian on 13 grain with cheddar cheese, mushrooms, cucumbers, tomatoes, sprouts, red pepper, avocado, and pesto mayonnaise

Please let us know how many lunches you want by email, here [email protected] and we will make sure we get those ordered for you!

Then, we are looking for several new John Pack Family Association (JPFA) volunteer Officers. Here are the positions we are looking for with some very high-level ideas of what they might be doing:

· JPFA President – Helps organize Committee, contributes to the monthly JPFA Newsletter, sets up committee meetings, delegates tasks to Committee Members, and other tasks.

· JPFA Secretary – Organizer and communicator extraordinaire! Helps the Committee stay on task!

· JPFA Treasurer – Manages the bank account and handle accounting needs, including the tax-exempt status of our non-profit organization.

· JPFA Vice Presidents for Wife Groups – The ideal is to have at least one of these for each of the six wives that John had children through! They help gather and communicate with their Wife Group descendants and lead genealogical efforts for that Wife Group.

· JPFA Genealogy Committee Members – Anyone who wants to help! We have multiple projects in mind that we need to talk about, decide on, and execute!

Please think about volunteering to help us if you are so inclined! Also, think of your family members and cousins that you may believe would do a good job on this kind of opportunity! We are looking to really move forward with some great things into the future!

I love our shared heritage and the pioneering spirit that has been so central to my life because of John Pack and so many others that have given us so much to be proud of and humbled by!

See many of you soon!

Gary Pack
JPFA President


REMEMBERING OUR ANCESTORS—written by Margie Grider, Historian 8/2/2021

I woke up with a song in my head, “A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief” that Joseph Smith sung before he was martyred.

A poor wayfaring Man of grief

Hath often crossed me on my way,

Who sued so humbly for relief

That I could never answer nay.

I had not pow’r to ask his name,

Yet there was something in his eye

That won my love; I knew not why.

and I thought of John Pack and his pioneer wives, and the sacrifices they each gave to be true to the gospel and a new religion. I am not comparing our ancestor to Joseph Smith, John was far from being perfect or not always loving in his personality, he was quite gruff and unrefined, but his heart was all in to serving God in this new religion. Our ancestors gave up much and were deeply committed. Thinking about the joys and trials that John and his wives went through. Each, independently converted to the gospel, willing to give up homeland and often family to be baptized and join the effort to create Zion in America. Six wives asked to marry and have children with a man they barely knew. One, Eliza Jane Graham left, and that took courage too. It also took courage to stay.

JOHN WAS ALL IN, NO MATTER THE DIFFICULTIES! Took on responsibilities of 8 wives. Purchased and lost land in several states, deaths of family members, sacrifice for church, persecution, illness and fear. Journeys across country for safety, living polygamy life with strangers, John marrying 3 extra wives at the same time, setting up life in a harsh environment like Winter Quarters, early Salt Lake, Bountiful and Kamas. Life was never easy, even when Salt Lake City became more civilized.

WHAT CAN I DO to honor their lives? How do I learn about them? What can we do to remember them? How can I connect with other descendants? Study FamilySearch, and family websites for histories and photos, sharing their stories to other family members, attend family reunions, donate $’s and pay dues, inform other people of the JPFA, collecting family emails and updating contact lists, message people updating genealogy with ideas and collaborate on research. Share modern technology skills with older family gives older generations a chance to share memories with young people whose computer skills come naturally. Volunteering, no matter how small the service feels, is a huge thing. Without service this family association does nothing, shrivels up and dies. Compared to the daily service of John, his wives and children; serving on the JPFA is a small sacrifice, with many rewards.

 Posted by at 8:12 pm
Jul 302018

Join us at the This is the Place Heritage Park on Saturday August 11th for our John Pack Family Reunion!

John Pack


Watch this page to see more details, and go to our John Pack Family Facebook page to get more information there too!

Hope to see many of you there!



2018 Reunion will be held on Saturday August 11th at This Is the Place Heritage Park– The John Pack Home, Registration begins at 9:30am–Reunion starts at 10am-2PM. – Margie Grider


 Posted by at 6:24 pm
Jun 252018

Please join us for the 2018 John Pack Family Reunion!

The Reunion will be held at The John Pack Home, in This Is The Place Park, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reunion family members get into the park free, and can roam the park free. Buildings, activities and train rides have a fee (half off wrist bands will be available). A great bargain for attending This is the Place Park with your family and a great chance to meet extended family members.

We will have food, fun skits and reports on our ancestors, the chance to meet your cousins and other relatives, and all the FUN at the This Is The Place Park!

Click below to buy a delicious Dutch Oven: Ribs, Potatoes, and Salad lunch.

***Note: You do NOT need to join paypal.com to purchase a lunch, just make the purchase as a guest.

 Posted by at 10:39 am
Apr 242016




John Pack’s “mission letter” for his France mission. I don’t think they got formal mission calls, I think the purpose of this letter was to prove their credentials if anyone asked, similar to the small version of our mission call we kept in our “white handbook” when I served my mission. For the best copy of this document, which is signed by Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, and Willard Richards, click this link (below):


 Posted by at 12:06 pm
Jun 052014

John Pack Family History

The John Pack Family Association officers would like to revitalize the family’s genealogical research organization.  With prime movers Kathleen Skinner and Russell Pack on full-time missions and our Family Historian Mark Gardner unable to regularly meet with the genealogical committee, we’ve come to a virtual standstill in this area.  We are not even sure now who has been serving on the genealogical committee.

So, let’s get organized and plan a path forward!

Those of you who have served on the general genealogical committee and would like to continue, please identify yourselves and give us your suggestions.  Those of you who would like to join the general committee please identify yourselves.  E-mail a note to our president Andi  Zorn: [email protected] .

Our professional genealogist, Mark Gardner, will continue as JPFA Genealogist, and he has time and is committed to reviewing the decisions and activities of the committee and will advise it.  However, a working committee lead and an associate lead are yet to be chosen.  Suggestions? 

David R. Pack, our past president who withdrew as president to spend more time on family history work, is willing to lead the project but would prefer someone with more genealogical expertise to do so.

We have in mind first to define a plan for building an information base: what we know, the status of our records, and the technology and procedure for collaboration.  Then, we can move into specific research ideas, methods, and assignments.

We propose preparing for committee meetings by first sharing questions, ideas, opinions, and proposals through e-mails and then making decisions and assignments through discussion in meetings.  We expect the meetings to be monthly if possible, and facilitated by using Skype, but we are open to suggestions.  Help us be realistic and practical.

John Pack Books Are Still Available

Those of you who cannot contribute time to the research can assist greatly by purchasing the two wonderful books on the life of John Pack.  Our children can come to appreciate their wonderful Pack heritage through these books.  They can be ordered online at JohnPackFamly.com using PayPal.  On the homepage at the top, click on the button “Get Involved” and you will see the book options.  The Redoubtable John Pack is $13, including mailing ; John Pack: As Revealed in the Records is $19, including mailing.  If you want a box of ten and can pick them up in Lehi, Centerville, Grantsville, or Rexburg, Idaho, you can save $3 on each Redoubtable and $4 on each As Revealed.

We look forward to working together for family awareness and history.

 Posted by at 12:26 pm