Apr 052011

Kathleen Skinner was working at the Family History Library help desk when Myron Seegmiller walked in and talked to her. Kathleen then sent me (Ernalee Jones) an e-mail informing me of the discussion.

Myron then sent me an email on November 24, 2010 stating: “I was fortunate to meet Katherine at the Family History Library last week. I’m pretty sure that Jessie Bell and William immigrated to the US together.” (I, Ernalee Jones have proven that Jessie and William did come across to American and to Utah together.)

William ended up in southern Utah, but I’m (Myron Seegmiller) not sure why. He met Sarah Ann Leany and they raised their family in Leeds. Thomas Stirling and Elizabeth immigrated later and settled with William.

Thomas and William both died and are buried in Leeds. After, Elizabeth went to Salt Lake to live with Ann Stirling Whyte and died there.

Myron Seegmiller has visited Salt Lake cemetery several times, but he has not found her grave yet.

I then contacted Myron Seegmiller and found out he is related to William Stirling. William Stirling is a Brother of Jessie Belle Stirling Pack.

Myron Seegmiller’s grandfather was David.

William went to Forfar while he was on his mission back to Scotland. He made family history notes in a book while on his mission in 1898. (Under Mission President David O. McKay). The book is called the Stirling Family Red Book.”

“One of Myron Seegmiller’s cousins, Beverly Evans scanned the book for all of us a couple of years back. It is a real treasure.” (He promised to try to get me a copy of the red book.)

After William and Thomas died, Elizabeth Bell Stirling moved to Salt Lake and lived with her daughter Ann Stirling Whyte. Ann and Elizabeth are buried in the Salt Lake City Cemetery.

Myron Seegmiller said his family genealogist has done work on the Stirling line and Bell line. They have documented some lines back to the 1700’s. The great great grandfather of William Stirling and Jessie Bell Stirling Pack, can be one of a possibile 7 names.

I have found Ann Stirling Whyte and Elizabeth Bell Stirling’s grave sites in the Salt Lake City Cemetery (lot 18 off Grand Avenue between Center Street and Cypress Avenue). Because of the snow I have not been able to see the head stones. John and Julie Pack are in B section and east of that is A section and east of that is I section where Elizabeth and Ann are buried.

Myron Seegmiller shared a picture taken by Mitchell and Co. of Forfar and Kiriemuir “possibly of James Bell and Mary Bell Miller.” I do not know where James and Mary Bell Miller fit into the family line. He also shared pictures of:

1. Elizabeth Bell Stirling as an adult woman and as an older woman.

2. Elizabeth Bell Stirling’s Coffin with flowers on the coffin taken in a house.

3. Thomas Stirling as an adult man

4. Thomas Stirling’s head stone in Leeds Utah.

5. William Stirling’s head stone in Leeds.

The original pictures are in the family home in Leeds, Utah.

William Stirling built the family home in Leeds. It is a Utah Historical Site. Myron Seegmiller’s grandfather, David, lived in it during his life. One of Myron’s first cousins lives in the home today.

If you are interested in a copy of the pictures Myron Seegmiller sends, or any additional information, please contact me.

~ Ernalee Jones, JPFA VP-Jessie Bell Stirling

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 Posted by at 11:16 am
Apr 052010

I am Liz Ladle
I am a 5th descendent from John and Ruth Mosher Pack.
I came from their son Irving James Pack
His daughter Leonainie Seraph Pack Horton
Her daughter Beatrice Horton Leonard
Her daughter Leona Leonard Fitzgerald
Then Me.
I have three children – Anna, Donovan, and Bella Ruth (who is named after Ruth Mosher)
I am a member of the Daughter’s of Utah Pioneers. I have given a record of John Pack and will
soon give a record of Ruth Mosher.
Thanks for this website.

Liz Ladle

 Posted by at 1:32 pm
Apr 052010

Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:41 PM

Our goal is to have a complete list of all descendants of Ruth Mosher & John Pack, with addresses & a family group sheet for each married couple. All I had when we started was the Ancestral File with many living listed as Living which doesn’t tell me a name. I did obtain the mailing list, but I had no idea which people were on the Mosher side to even contact for help. The Family Group binder collection did help but most of the sheets were filled out before 1970, and most of the children in there were now married with new names or the older ones are dead. I still had to individually check each sheet with my PAF info with the Ancestral File to fill in the “LIVING” names just to see which families on the mailing list were MOSHERS. It took two months to merge all the records, but the record is more complete and will eventually be available for all & the Web site. Now I know which family lines have blanks and which have been highly involved with the Pack Family Association. All of this was done to see who on the mailing list was on the Mosher side and could help gather living information that we are missing. I don’t know what is being done by others or what has been done in the past to keep connected with the living descendants of John Pack. My philosophy that has developed over the last 7 years is that we are losing sight of the past in our families by not involving the younger generation. Family Associations are not just for the oldest generation to gather once a year and visit with cousins. In the smaller Grandparent organization one family Genealogist could keep track of all family members births, marriages and deaths while keeping the family close. Large Ancestral Family Organizations were designed for sharing talents & money to further genealogical research, and involve our ancestors experiences in our everyday lives. Many of today’s families know little about their pioneer heritage. As the family grows, the descendants multiply so one person can’t keep track of them easily. I haven’t solved the problem yet, I just know I can’t quit trying to find all the living descendants that have slipped through the cracks and forgotten as the family got bigger. Then when we have complete family group records on each family; we need to tell stories about the past & the present generations in the form of a newsletter or a book. When family members know more about the past then they will want to become a part of the present organization. Many missing families would like to be a part of the Pack’s but have lost contact years ago and could help contribute to the home or give funds for research. I feel that one person can’t keep track of everyone, do research, write histories and arrange for Temple Work without lots of help. Others might want to help but don’t know what to do, how to do it, or who to ask. It is our calling to teach them how, and instruct exactly what to do if we want to be a successful family. We have really come along way in pulling together and involving everyone with the home, now we need to include them learning more about the past & sharing the future.

The Utah Genealogical Association is having their annual conference May 9-11 at the Salt Palace in Salt Lake City. The theme is UNTANGLING YOUR ROOTS. Their will be 118 different classes on all subjects. I am planning on going at my own cost, but would love some company of others working on the same goal. Is there anyone who might be interested in learning more, or would like to take other classes at another time? The UGA is offering a discount to UGA members & to those who pre-register early (postmarked by April 10th, which is tomorrow). One day costs $55 & 2 days as a member is $75. Pre-registration will save $10 off each person if 5 sign up together. But must be mailed tomorrow! Non member cost is equal to the yearly membership dues of $35. They have an association membership price of $45 which covers 2 members or a family membership of $45 for 2 people. Registering after April 10th will be $95 for Friday & Sat. for members. They have a Website to check out classes www.infouga.org.

This was written for your information and to have others let me know what they are doing on their side of the family. And to practice contacting others.

Margie Grider

 Posted by at 1:28 pm