JPFA 2023 REUNION August 5th

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2023 Reunion Hosted by the  

John Pack Family Association 5th August  

Guide to digital links 

Pack Family Historical Sites Self-guided Tour 

Salt Lake City/West Bountiful and Bountiful 

OFFICIAL TOUR ON SATURDAY MORNING  

AUGUST 5TH, 2023 FROM 9-11 AM.  

HISTORICAL SITES TO FIND ON YOUR OWN 

Look for the Pack family yard signs.   

Download and print passport booklet to get marked at each location 

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Reunion follows tour at This Is the Place Park 

Discounted Park Admission of $5, includes activities. 10 am-5 pm. 

11 am Gathering at the John Pack Home 

This Is the Place Heritage Park 

12 noon Lunch in the house 

 (bring your own, buy in the park or order box lunch from us) 

1 pm John Pack Family Association Meeting & Story Telling 

House closes at 3 pm. Park closes at 5 pm.  

                                            Links for 2023 Reunion 

Link to Lunch Orders 

Link to Self-Guided Tour Passport Foldup Booklet 

Link to JPFA Survey, Self-Guided Tour Info and Pre-Registration RSVP 

Links to purchase John Pack books:  

John Pack As Revealed in the Records and The Redoubtable John Pack 

Link to Donations and/or Annual $10 JPFA Dues 

2023 Reunion Lunches

12-1 pm in the John Pack Home 

You may bring your own lunch, buy lunch in the park, or pre-order a box lunch from Apple Spice Box Lunch Delivery as listed. Lunches must be ordered and paid for by Wednesday August 2nd or they will be canceled.  

Payment by PayPal or Venmo or check mailed to Brenda Rees (treasurer).  

$12.00 box lunch includes fresh sandwich, dill pickle, cookie, mint, fruit, chips and bottled water.  

 Sandwich choices*: 

Trio Classic on 13 grain bread— ham, turkey, roast beef, with lettuce, tomato, swiss cheese 

Roast Beef and Provolone on 13 grain bread— roast beef, lettuce, tomato, and provolone cheese. 

Vegetarian on Honey Wheat— mushrooms, cucumbers, tomatoes, sprouts, peppers, and avocado on lettuce with cheddar cheese and pesto mayonnaise. 

Chicken Ranch on Croissant—Chicken salad with grapes, celery, onions, cashews, ranch dressing. 

Mustard, Mayo, and Apple Spice Junction Signature Sauce comes with each lunch. 

*Substitute gluten free bread + $1.99 extra cost. Let us know of any nutrition needs.  

Link to  Lunch Orders 

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OR  Bring Your Own Food from Home 

OR  Park food options 

Huntsman Grill Menu  (across street from Pack home)    

Ice Cream Shop  

Brigham’s Donuts (lower level of the Social Hall) 

OR  Pick up something during the tour, before entering the park and join us in the house. 

                   Pack Family Historical Sites  

                 Self-Guided Tour and Reunion 

                  (Salt Lake City/West Bountiful/Bountiful) 

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OFFICIAL TOUR IS ON SATURDAY MORNING  

AUGUST 5TH, 2023 FROM 9-11 AM.   

HISTORICAL SITES TO FIND ON YOUR OWN 

       Link to  Tour Survey and Reunion Pre-Registration 

       Link to  Tour Passport Foldup Booklet 

A Passport booklet can be download and printed yourself before the tour day.  Signs will be posted at 8 official locations with historical information on the back of yard signs. Read the information, take family selfies at each location, mark your passport booklet with a sticker. Please respect properties visited by not asking to go inside private homes, please walk on sidewalks, park in legal spaces, watch children. Quickly move onto the next site. Speed is not a factor in this hunt. Do it at your own pace. Choose whichever sites work for you. You do not have to visit all the sites. Extra places are bonus points. Prizes will be given out during the reunion. The real prize is exploring your ancestors and meeting parts of the family you may not normally visit with.  

Reunion is held at This is The Place Heritage Park–John Pack Home from 11am-3pm with family meeting and story time starting at 1pm. Registration at the house starts at 10am. Come visit us at the house, pay $5 entrance fees, yearly dues and purchase books. Parking is available behind the Huntsman Hotel (Northwest of the Pack home), at parking by the monument, and by the Brigham Young Summer Home & take the train up. Bring or buy your own lunch. Zoom and Facebook Live Links will be provided to join us at 1pm.  

Link to  2023 John Pack Reunion LIVE | Facebook 

ZOOM —Topic: John Pack Reunion August 5, 2023  

Zoom Link            Meeting ID: 891 2180 2682                Passcode: 525999 

Time: Aug 5, 2023, 1 PM Mountain Time (US and Canada) 

WEST BOUNTIFUL  

Pack Family homes: Mary Jane Walker; Jessie Belle Stirling and other wives: 400 N in West Bountiful. At least 3 homes were owned by the Pack family. You can still see 3 of them. Best option for parking is to park at the local elementary school, 500 North 800 West and walk the “Pack” Street. 

Jessie’s houses: 676 W 400 N & 688 W 400 N.       Walker X. Pack 722 W 400 N 

A large brick house with a lawn and a fountain

Description automatically generatedFrederick J. Pack Home: 666 N 800 W, Mary Jane Walker and John Pack’s son. Built by Frederick Pack, but only lived in for 1 year. Registered as a Historic home and maintained.  

BOUNTIFUL 

Bountiful City Memorial Cemetery  

2224 S. 200 West, Bountiful, Davis County, Utah 

(2 locations within the Bountiful Cemetery– Mary Jane Walker and Jessie Stirling family graves 

 Mary Jane Walker Pack marker (middle of cemetery);  

  1. A map of a neighborhood

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 Jessie Belle Stirling Pack marker (by the Mausoleum, along the road) 

  1. A map with a blue marker

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A house with a chimney

Description automatically generatedSALT LAKE CITY—— 

Original home: First home in the valley, occupied by Julia Ives, Nancy Booth and Ruth Mosher. DUP Rock Marker where home once stood, 199 N West Temple (West of LDS Conference Center) and site of West Temple Apartments. Limited parking on the surrounding streets. Do Not Park inside the Conference Center. 

199 N West Temple – Google Maps Street View 

First Encampment: 1704 S 500 E SLC 

First Encampment Park – Google Maps 

*Parking is limited. Best place is lot diagonally across the street on 1700 S, or one block south on the street.  

Salt Lake City Cemetery:  

Pack Family Marker Grand Avenue (270 N) 

Enter from “N” Street to Grand Avenue. The Pack marker is on the right, about 3 cemetery blocks to the east. All names are on one marker.  

  1. John Pack marker 
  1. Julia Ives Pack 
  1. Nancy Booth Pack 
  1. Other people on the marker 

A monument with statues on top

Description automatically generatedThis Is The Place Memorial Marker: 2601 East Sunnyside Avenue, Salt Lake City. Dedicated July 24, 1947, commemorates the arrival of the Mormon pioneers into the valley of the Great Salt Lake.  

John Pack as part of the explorer party is featured on the side.  

Bonus points—— 

Home of any other John Pack Descendant not already visited (1st generation until the 10th, anyone/) Your starting location or home does not count unless you live in a historic house. 

SALT LAKE CITY— 

Original home:  

Bonus: which children were born in the home? What was the Ward # John & family belonged to in Salt Lake City? John donated land to the north of his property. What was built there? Original Pioneers Plaque on back side of Brigham Young Statue, Salt Lake City, Southeast corner of Temple Square (Currently behind the huge SLC Temple construction Fences (west of the Joseph Smith Building) not currently accessible except as drive by)  

First Encampment 

  1. Find John Pack’s name on the monument 
  1. Find 3 other famous names. 

Salt Lake City Cemetery 

1.    Other Pack family in SLC, not on the marker.  

2.    Who is memorialized on the tall obelisk on Grand Ave, one block northwest of the Pack family marker?  

3.    Notable markers 

4.    Any past church president buried in SLC 

This Is The Place Memorial Marker:  

  1. Is John on a horse or standing? 
  1. Name someone near John? 
  1. What year was the monument placed? 
  1. What date did John Pack first enter the valley?  

WEST BOUNTIFUL  

Pack Family homes:  

Frederick J. Pack Home: What feature of the home quickly identifies it as a Pack home? 

  1. DUP John Pack Camp Marker 311 N 800 W (Why the marker?) 
  1. A home of other children of John Pack that lived in West Bountiful, not already visited.  

Bountiful Memorial Cemetery 

  1. Walker family at the family plot (not Mary Jane Walker)  
  1. Stirling family at the family plot (not Jessie Belle Stirling) 
  1. Any other Pack family not in the Walker or Stirling family plots

Clyde Pack’s passing – Dec 2021

We were very saddened to hear of Clyde Pack’s passing recently. Clyde served for several years as President of The John Pack Family Association, was heavily involved in fundraising for the organization, and in the creation of the John Pack Home, and did some of the work on, John Pack as Revealed in the Records book.

His obituary is here and please also share memories of him on his tribute wall: https://www.myers-mortuary.com/obituary/Clyde-Pack


There will be a viewing for Clyde Pack at the Myers Mortuary in Roy UT on Wednesday, December 22, 2021.  The address is 5850 S 1900 W, Roy, UT 84067.  It will be from 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm.

If you can’t make it to the viewing on the 22nd, there will be a viewing before the funeral on December 23rd from 9:30 am to 10:30 am at the chapel at 5850 South 2575  West, Roy, UT.  The funeral will follow the viewing at 11:00 am.”

John Pack Genealogy

You can now open up John Pack’s genealogy in PAF using our John Pack Gedcom File (Right-click with your mouse on this text and select “Save Linked File As…” from the popup menu).

We now have hundreds of photos of John Pack and his descendants in our JPFA Photo Album. You can view the photos, add your comments to help identify or add information about them, or submit your own photo from a digital camera or scanner.

Please see the donate page for more ways you can help with genealogy, photos, documents, or cash donations.

We now have over 1,000 pages of John Pack’s progenitor genealogy online. Click on the links below to see what genealogy we have and what is missing.

You can also view the “Pack” genealogy forum on genealogy.com, or contact Kathleen P. Skinner, John Pack Family Association Genealogist, with your genealogy question.



Table of Contents | Surnames | Name List

Replacing John, Elizabeth, & Job Pack’s Headstone

Current condition of headstone ^, Original condition V
Dear John Pack Family Descendants,

What a wonderful reunion we had in August! Congrats to Gary Pack on pulling on the parts together. Margie Grider our Facebook manager showed us around the John Pack Home with ease.

Tracy Carr and Gary Pack’s children managed the online broadcast. Diane Quist and Gary Pack provided our lunches with creamies to end. Our program was amazing, focusing on Eliza Jane Graham.

Brian Stutzman provided history on her involvement at the trial after the murder of Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith. Nancy Potter, a descendant of Eliza gave insight to her life after leaving Nauvoo, and John Pack. Of course we sang the Alphabet Kids song and shared a few other stories about Nancy Booth and John. Thanks to Andi Zorn for managing the finance for the event.

Now it is time to move forward! We want to welcome all descendants of John Pack and his wives to continue to gather together. How many current descendants are living? Help us know. Join the Facebook groups and talk to each other. As we turn to our ancestry, may we seek out those not yet found. Let’s learn about their lives, gather stories, documents and the historical events they lived in.

TheGenealogy Committee under President Kathleen Skinner will meet soon to discuss our future projects. We would like to see a re-start of our DNA project to connect us firmly to New Jersey and across to England. We also have the 1750 gravestone of Job Pack, Elizabeth, and son John to replace in the Rahway Cemetery, New Jersey. Our shared Pack lines of Buckhout, Marsh and Greene could use some work, too. I invite anyone interested to join a Committee.

Committee Needs: Technology with the websites and DNA gathering. DNA Project manager, Newsletter Editor, Reunion 2023 planning, Helpers under the Vice Presidents including Facebook, Ancestral researchers . Lucy Janes GILES and Jessie Belle STIRLING VP’s.

John Pack Family Executive Committee … October 2021

President: Kathleen Skinner … 
[email protected]

Secretary: Tracy W. Carr … [email protected]

Treasurer: Brenda Rees … [email protected]

Vice Presidents:

Laura Dieckmann – VP Julia IVES … [email protected]

Diane Quist – VP Nancy BOOTH … [email protected]

Heather Pack – VP Ruth MOSHER … [email protected]

Jennifer Browning – VP Mary Jane WALKER … [email protected]

Brad Pack – Website Manager … [email protected] johnpackfamily.com

Larry Skinner – Membership Assistant … [email protected]

David R Pack – Historian/ Genealogy Webmaster … [email protected]

Margie Grider – Facebook Manager [email protected]
Sincerely,


Kathleen Skinner / JPFA President

Contact: [email protected] 801-513-7364
587 East 700 South
Centerville, Utah 84014

John Pack Reunion is less than a week away…

Save the date

Reunion/Survey/JPFA Officers

Hello John Pack family members and friends! Our reunion is less than a week away! I hope you are planning on attending if you can!

Please fill out this survey if you have not had a chance to do so:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LLQSWRW


I want to bring up a few things about the reunion so we will all have a little more information.

First, that we have HUGE DISCOUNTS on the This is the Place Heritage Park passes available for those who come the John Pack home and buy them from us! It will cost $5 instead of $15! Come and enjoy this amazing park!

Next, we will be offering lunches which can be purchased for $10 each! They include a ½ sandwich (very large), a pickle, a cookie, a mint, and a salad (frog eye, potato, or fruit). We will have bottled water and Creamies for everyone also! The following sandwich options will be available:

· Turkey and Swiss on honey wheat

· Ham and Havarti cheese on sourdough

· Roast Beef and Provolone on 13 grain and Dijon horseradish

· Vegetarian on 13 grain with cheddar cheese, mushrooms, cucumbers, tomatoes, sprouts, red pepper, avocado, and pesto mayonnaise

Please let us know how many lunches you want by email, here [email protected] and we will make sure we get those ordered for you!

Then, we are looking for several new John Pack Family Association (JPFA) volunteer Officers. Here are the positions we are looking for with some very high-level ideas of what they might be doing:

· JPFA President – Helps organize Committee, contributes to the monthly JPFA Newsletter, sets up committee meetings, delegates tasks to Committee Members, and other tasks.

· JPFA Secretary – Organizer and communicator extraordinaire! Helps the Committee stay on task!

· JPFA Treasurer – Manages the bank account and handle accounting needs, including the tax-exempt status of our non-profit organization.

· JPFA Vice Presidents for Wife Groups – The ideal is to have at least one of these for each of the six wives that John had children through! They help gather and communicate with their Wife Group descendants and lead genealogical efforts for that Wife Group.

· JPFA Genealogy Committee Members – Anyone who wants to help! We have multiple projects in mind that we need to talk about, decide on, and execute!

Please think about volunteering to help us if you are so inclined! Also, think of your family members and cousins that you may believe would do a good job on this kind of opportunity! We are looking to really move forward with some great things into the future!

I love our shared heritage and the pioneering spirit that has been so central to my life because of John Pack and so many others that have given us so much to be proud of and humbled by!

See many of you soon!

Gary Pack
JPFA President

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REMEMBERING OUR ANCESTORS—written by Margie Grider, Historian 8/2/2021

I woke up with a song in my head, “A Poor Wayfaring Man of Grief” that Joseph Smith sung before he was martyred.

A poor wayfaring Man of grief

Hath often crossed me on my way,

Who sued so humbly for relief

That I could never answer nay.

I had not pow’r to ask his name,

Yet there was something in his eye

That won my love; I knew not why.

and I thought of John Pack and his pioneer wives, and the sacrifices they each gave to be true to the gospel and a new religion. I am not comparing our ancestor to Joseph Smith, John was far from being perfect or not always loving in his personality, he was quite gruff and unrefined, but his heart was all in to serving God in this new religion. Our ancestors gave up much and were deeply committed. Thinking about the joys and trials that John and his wives went through. Each, independently converted to the gospel, willing to give up homeland and often family to be baptized and join the effort to create Zion in America. Six wives asked to marry and have children with a man they barely knew. One, Eliza Jane Graham left, and that took courage too. It also took courage to stay.

JOHN WAS ALL IN, NO MATTER THE DIFFICULTIES! Took on responsibilities of 8 wives. Purchased and lost land in several states, deaths of family members, sacrifice for church, persecution, illness and fear. Journeys across country for safety, living polygamy life with strangers, John marrying 3 extra wives at the same time, setting up life in a harsh environment like Winter Quarters, early Salt Lake, Bountiful and Kamas. Life was never easy, even when Salt Lake City became more civilized.

WHAT CAN I DO to honor their lives? How do I learn about them? What can we do to remember them? How can I connect with other descendants? Study FamilySearch, and family websites for histories and photos, sharing their stories to other family members, attend family reunions, donate $’s and pay dues, inform other people of the JPFA, collecting family emails and updating contact lists, message people updating genealogy with ideas and collaborate on research. Share modern technology skills with older family gives older generations a chance to share memories with young people whose computer skills come naturally. Volunteering, no matter how small the service feels, is a huge thing. Without service this family association does nothing, shrivels up and dies. Compared to the daily service of John, his wives and children; serving on the JPFA is a small sacrifice, with many rewards.

2018 Reunion News

We are excited to see a bunch of family at the reunion on Saturday!

Just so all is clear, we will be having LUNCHES available at the John Pack House for $8.00 each. We have ordered extra lunches so those of you who have not yet paid can pay us there at the Park and get a great dutch-oven lunch! Make sure you sign up for lunch when you register at the House since it still will be first-come-first-serve! When they are gone they are gone!

Also, please feel free to bring a PIE to share! If you bake the pie yourself, there will be a panel of judges (celebrities of course!) that will judge the pies and a there will be a $25 Amazon gift card for the best pie!  If you do not want to bake a pie, just buy one and bring it to share!  We will have ice cream to add to make it a complete dessert!    🙂

Some of you have seen that we are doing a contest for who can bring the most email sign-ups to the website. We will be giving Amazon Gift Cards for this contest. You should also know that we will be giving out Amazon Gift Cards to some random family members that will be at the reunion also! For instance, who has traveled the furthest to be at the reunion!  It will be fun!

We will have both the “Redoubtable” and the “John Pack From The Records” books available for purchase at the reunion! Come get copies for your family members who need a wonderful Birthday or Christmas present later this year!

We love our John Pack Family Reunion and look forward to seeing many of you Saturday morning!

Gary – JPFA President

2018 REUNION – Saturday August 11th!

Join us at the This is the Place Heritage Park on Saturday August 11th for our John Pack Family Reunion!

John Pack

 

Watch this page to see more details, and go to our John Pack Family Facebook page to get more information there too!

Hope to see many of you there!

 

 

2018 Reunion will be held on Saturday August 11th at This Is the Place Heritage Park– The John Pack Home, Registration begins at 9:30am–Reunion starts at 10am-2PM. – Margie Grider